Oh you mean a subpoena from the one responsible for the crime area - JONNY BEHAN. You can't to be serious! The question was not about Doc , but the corrupt bunch of reprobates called honest ranchers who intimated real honest ranchers to keep quiet about the crimes they were hiding!
...doesn't have much interest in Doc Holliday and his glorious life story so she hasn't followed up on what the opinions of these historians might be. Perhaps you could enlighten us all? ...as for... more
Re: the person you are likely referring to... — Charlie,Fri Feb 03 9:17
...with some concrete records. People my age don't put much stock in gossip. Some actual records; some logic? How about just considering how much territory is in Cochise County to cover on horseback. No... more
Hi Joyce It strikes me that none of his contemporaries had a good word to say about Holliday, just rather weak defences against some of the common accusations. This must mean something.
summed Doc Holliday up well enough. Alcoholic, slowly dying, soured. He probably rubbed most people the wrong way, sooner than later. His reputation, like most folk's, is overblown. We can look at both... more
He was a dentist. Nobody likes a dentist. They inflict pain. Even worse, he was a tubercular dentist. I'd conjecture that people may have feared his extraction forceps as much as his six-gun. And his cough,... more
...except that Doc was well versed in the use of ether to treat dental patients; in fact, that's one of the reasons he went to dental school and not medical school. His uncle, whom he was named after,... more
I would add that the disease itself might have affected his attitude. No antibiotics then. Fevers, chills, sweat, coughing, wheezing, coughing blood, pain, and bad breath would certainly shaped his reaction... more
the fact that alcohol is a very effective cough suppressant. I can personally attest to the efficacy of a combination of whiskey, hot water, and lemon. Or we can dispense with the water and lemon altogether.... more
Olds, it is not a given that Doc was a (primary) alcoholic. Back in the old west days, not only was there no antibiotics for the tuberculin bacteria, but there was also no medication which would decrease... more
I’ve always been curious if Doc Holliday, being from Georgia, May have used rabbit tobacco to ease the symptoms of his tuberculosis. Many of the old Appalachian doctors that I’ve read about would prescribe... more
I was just agreeing with Dan. Whether Doc technically was what we would consider alcoholic by contemporary standards is a moot point in my opinion. He was a chronic drinker and had good reason to be. He... more
Hey Olds, I am not sure what argument you are having? Why does it matter if Doc liked himself? Is it a moot point if the current cochise county attorney is an alcoholic? Is it important if the... more
is a failure to communicate. If you don't understand how self-esteem and self-awareness can impact the motivations that drives human behavior, then any explanation I might offer for why that is the case... more
Hey olds, I’m very impressed with your self anointed behavioral Heath education and expertise. I have two Psych degrees and have worked in behavioral health since 1970 … ….but it appears that you... more
No disrespect to your stellar c.v., but my understanding of human behavior, as you put it, is essential to what I have been doing for a living since I left grad school in the late 1970s. Whether that... more
Although I don’t know we have any reliable sources of what Morgan thought of Doc. And from Wyatt’s testimony and later comments about his rivals trying to malign him via Doc, it is evident he was well... more
I could swear that I read in more than one source, reliable or otherwise, that Morgan and Doc were "closer" than Doc and Wyatt. Kenny Vail would know, I betcha, but Kenny Vail ain't here. Certainly Doc... more
At present I’m overseas and just going from memory. However, I thought the ideas that Morgan was a hothead and particularly pally with Doc all emanated from Boyer’s fiction. Certainly there are no newspaper... more
bibliographies concerning Earp and Holliday. Up until the 1990's he dominated the Tombstone legend. Many western writers accepted his claims. So, there may be some mention of a close Doc and Morgan... more
pushed the Morgan and Doc as best pals theme. From there Michael Hickey and Ben Traywick may have run with it. I suspect Boyer thought it might have added a little more zest to the vendetta ride. I don't... more
I've been Boyerzied! This is what happens when, having read too much, you arrive at a certain age and things begin to blur until you no longer can tell Glenn Boyer from Clete Boyer from Chef Boyardee.... more
for the pre-op sedation. He was that kind of guy. By the way, I have quite a collection of signed Boyer post-op works, which I am very willing to sell to any uninitiated collector of misinformation.
Hey Dan, I remember years ago visiting Boyer’s (so called) ranch in New Mexico. I questioned Glenn multiple times about the “Clum Manuscript” and asked multiple times if I could check it out. As... more
I heard Boyer used to charge $2.00 to see the bed he claimed Earp passed away in. Over-charges aside, I have wondered to what degree, if any, Boyer believed his own lies? He invested most of his adult... more
Boyer used to host an annual get-together at his (so called) ranch. I remember one lady who was a North Texas University Professor, each year would claim “dibs” as the Boyerite who was allowed to sleep... more
in the hearts of boyerites? His followers were almost cult-like in their defense of him. That's a state only charismatic sociopaths can inspire. As a psychologist you might want to interview her. Get her... more
knowing that Icon hated you. He hated this site. He hated being exposed. On the bright side, BJ's Tombstone History Forum probably hastened his final ride...still, his heirs did get a large sum of money... more
This history forum was simply a conduit for the real history heavyweights, all of whom exposed Boyer. The above includes Jack Burrows, Casey Tefertiller, Jeff Morey, Gary Roberts and several others.... more
It's less a matter of feeling unwell than being unwell. That said, I do so loath concision. And clarity, clarity too, which more often than not only confounds.
the post modernist camp or valley or high plain or whatever you might prefer to call or not call it. Speaking for myself, clarity has never done me much good. It's not like winning the lottery.
The pomo camp thing. I was mentored as an undergrad by Dr. Ihab Hassan. You can Google him, but to save you the trouble, I'll just remark that he was one of the earliest American (he was himself Egyptian)... more
bouy low self-esteem. We sort of know what others thought of him, but I am inclined to think that he brought more than cards to the table. Low self-esteem, self-loathing, and guilt, when mixed with a quart... more
that one brought a smile to my face: "not killing people is what's hard." Very good. True then, true now. In my experience, a sense of humor cannot only buoy self-esteem, it can be a life-saver. (No,... more
have to. Consider, it could have been far worse. I could have included a brief, capsule history of toilet paper as well (which wasn't widely available out West until the post-Civil War era), which is... more
...squeamish. When working cattle with my husband years ago I did learn that a wadded up bunch of dried grasses was as comfortable as you were going to get sometimes. We all survived quite well without... more
...on the matter but then people like me feel that there is a limit to how much chemicals we want punched into our bodies; especially when we don't always know exactle what they consist of. To each hi... more
I'm glad you understand my feelings, Joyce, but personally,I often suspect them of not being entirely on my side. So far as toxins go, it may be prudent to assume that we're already walking time bombs... more