Michael Fearnehough
Portraits Of Manuela & Antonia
Tue Sep 12, 5:44

Was she pregnant?

Strangely reminiscent of early portraiture ... while there are images of pregnant women during the 16th and 17th centuries, there are only rare examples to be found between then and the early 20th century

You don't need me to butt in, but further comparisons could be made with the photographs of Manuela and/or her sister in David G.Thomas's "Dirty Dave Rudabaugh"[page 145] and David Garrett & Mica Pharris's "Blood On The Saddle, The Life Of Doc Scurlock"

  • Charlie Bowdre's wife, Manuela — Robert Buckley, Fri Sep 08 20:28
    Looking for the truth. A mystery is unfolding regarding Charlie Bowdre’s wife. It has been assumed that Manuela Herrera was his bride. However, census documentation shows Manuela to be only about 14 years... more
    • Portraits Of Manuela & Antonia — Michael Fearnehough, Tue Sep 12 5:44
      • Thanks Michael — Robert Buckley, Tue Sep 12 6:14
        Your help is always appreciated...you are now the third person who asked me if Manuela was pregnant.
    • Bowdres — Henrik63, Sun Sep 10 10:08
      Really looking forward to reading more. “There’s always more to be known”!!! Thanks a lot.
    • Photos of Charlie and Manuela — Robert Buckley, Sat Sep 09 8:13
      https://www.oldwestevents.com/highlights/2019/1/10/cdvs-of-charlie-bowdre-and-wife
      • Discretion being the better part of valo[u]r — Michael Fearnehough, Wed Sep 13 3:15
        Robert ... I know you're still working on this, but if the photo was of a different Manuela, no wonder the young wife lost her temper ... or did Garrett find it afterwards in the bloodstained jacket that... more
        • The blood - stained photo — Robert Buckley, Wed Sep 13 6:17
          In 1975, Robert McCubbin purchased the blood - stained photo from Jarvis Garrett (Pat Garrett's son). Jarvis said the photo was taken off the body of Charlie Bowdre after he was killed at Stinking Springs.... more
          • Doc, Charlie & The Cheese Factory — Michael Fearnehough, Wed Sep 13 6:39
            Thanks for the probate details ... does this century long theory include Bowdre and Scurlock marrying the two sisters? If Garrett returned the body to the "widow" [who he knew] why would he keep the... more
            • Re: Doc, Charlie & The Cheese Factory — Robert Buckley, Wed Sep 13 6:54
              When Jim East brought Charlie's body back to Manuela,Jim said Manuela's mother was with her at that time....Manuela Herrera's mother died in 1873.. Charlie and Doc were not brother- in- law,that is... more
              • Re: Re: Doc, Charlie & The Cheese Factory — Michael Fearnehough, Wed Sep 13 7:12
                I hadn't got round to finding that ... well done! If Jim East or the others didn't speak Spanish that well I presume mistakes could be easily made
                • Charlie Siringo — Robert Buckley, Wed Sep 13 7:22
                  Charlie Siringo was in Fort Sumner just before Billy was killed. He said he saw Manuela at a dance.He also said Manuela's mother was in Fort Sumner at that time.
                  • Mothers & The Law — Michael Fearnehough, Wed Sep 13 11:26
                    Siringo was a known teller of tales ... as you say, Manuela Herrera's mother died in 1873, but, which mother did he see [or not] see? ... which Manuela did he dance with? ... which Manuela attacked the... more