Jones
Behan and Hitching Posts
Mon Apr 11, 13:41

I'm ok with Behan's testimony. He doesn't see any of the scramble after the first two shots. The only thing he seems to know about after the first two shots is that Ike ran into Fly's after the fifth shot. Something he would only know if he was in Fly's. And interestingly enough, that's the way it turned out in the simulation. The first two shots, Wyatt fires one into the air, Doc shoots Tom, Virgil fires a round towards Ike (hitting a wagon), Ike makes it through the front door of Fly's. I think the routine I gave Behan matches up fairly well with his testimony. He sees the first two shots and doesn't claim to seeing much else until after mid way through the fight. All in all it doesn't make much difference. He's just one witness and for the most part doesn't bring much that is unique to the table. His testimony is just kind of pooled with what others say.

I can't help but be curious. Why do you think Behan would lie? What's in it for him?

In the video, before I resolve the last five witnesses, I point out that most of them have to be resolved from clues in their testimony because the court report didn't seem to think it was important enough to include their locations in his notes. Of the five, Allen is the only one to tell us where he starts and where he goes to. For the other four (Coleman, Behan, Fuller, and Claiborne), no such luck. I think this goes to show what terrible shape the testimony is in. Certainly the people in the court room knew where all the witnesses were located. I can't imagine witnesses saying that they refuse to disclose their location. I don't think the lack of info about Behan's location is because of Behan trying to hide something. I think it's for the same reason we're not told Coleman, Fuller, or Claiborne's locations. The court reporter didn't find it that interesting or couldn't keep up with the note taking.

"the post Claiborne testified to"
When I read that I couldn't help but chuckle.
I wanted some props to put in the environment and what could be better then some hitching posts. I've seen plenty of western shows and one thing they all have in common is plenty of hitching posts. (Ok, I'm guessing plenty of ya already know where this is going :-) So off to view old photos of Tombstone and other old western towns... Hardly a hitching post to be found. But, I guess it makes since. No one wants a giant animal pooping outside their front door. I expect the attitude was, if you drive a horse into town take it to a parking lot. None-the-less, I added a few hitching posts anyway.
I expect the post out in front of the little house wasn't really a hitching post, but rather served to keep wagons from running into the side of the house when they pulled in between the two buildings. I also expect that's why the OK Corral sign is placed where it is, to keep animals and wagons from running over the sidewalk.


Jones

    • Johnny doesn't say, Hatch does.Jerry Prather, Mon Apr 11 11:32
      All of these people are talking about what occurred near Bauer's when the Earps brushed by Behan. Hatch should be added to that list, since that's what he said happened there too. Hatch was the only w... more
      • Behan and Hitching Posts — Jones, Mon Apr 11 13:41
        • Where's the nickel-plated pistol?Jerry Prather, Mon Apr 11 14:45
          If those were actually the first 4 shots, why all the concern from prosecution witnesses about the nickel-plated pistol. Behan: "the nickel-plated pistol was the first to fire". These witnesses seemed... more
          • DeterminedJones, Mon Apr 11 16:26
            "These witnesses seemed determined to ..." I expect this is at least some of the reason we view things differently. I don't see them as being determined to do anything. Just witnesses telling what ... more
            • Jones/determined....Joyce A. Aros, Mon Apr 11 19:10
              ...It is only fair to offer 'the benefit of the doubt' to all the witnesses and as you say, most were truth tellers, at least six seem quite reliable. We have people caught in the moment and others... more
              • TestimoniesJones, Tue Apr 12 12:42
                I found value in all the testimonies. Even those, that for whatever reason, are incorrect. Regarding the testimony: I think people under estimate how much is missing. Ike spent two or three days... more
                • Testmonies, are there missing bits.Gail Allan, Tue Apr 12 21:02
                  I do not think there are missing parts of the testimony. Here's why. We have the original court reporters pages, and the Nugget's reporting for the Coroner's inquest. Keep in mind the Nugget's reporte... more
                  • re: are there missing bitsJones, Wed Apr 13 10:32
                    Ike Clanton's testimony November 9-15, 1881 Ike spent four days in the court room. The entirety of his testimony can be read aloud in one hour. That's a lot of court room time for what little verb... more
                    • Testimonies and courtroom time.Gail Allan, Wed Apr 13 12:06
                      Jones if you've ever been in a courtroom you'll know it takes a lot more time to get the work done than just the time it would take to read the transcripts out loud. I was in a jury on a medical malpr... more
                      • re: Testimonies and courtroom timeJones, Wed Apr 13 13:18
                        I've managed to dodge jury duty up to this point so I'll take your word for it. I didn't realize that only one hour of the spoken word was the norm for a weeks worth of testimony. Only the government... more
                • Testimonies...Joyce A. Aros, Tue Apr 12 17:22
                  I am evaluating the whole thing from the existing recorded testimonies. I do not change a word. I know that there are sure to be many other words spoken at the time but we don't have those, do we? So ... more
                  • Jones/follow up to testimonies.....Joyce A. Aros, Tue Apr 12 18:21
                    ...please note in Virgil's testimony how he focuses on Billy Clanton, completely condensing the whole scenario by eliminating the attack on Frank and the shotgun blast at Tom. Virgil focuses totall... more
                    • re: testimoniesJones, Tue Apr 12 20:49
                      Agree with you on the Earp brothers story. I think the video is plenty clear about my opinion of the lawman story. I think they chose Billy as the initial shooter because he was farthest into the va... more
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