Jones
Determined
Mon Apr 11, 16:26

"These witnesses seemed determined to ..."
I expect this is at least some of the reason we view things differently. I don't see them as being determined to do anything. Just witnesses telling what they witnessed. I start by assuming that all of them are truth tellers. And they remain so until they prove themselves differently.

Jones

    • Where's the nickel-plated pistol? — Jerry Prather, Mon Apr 11 14:45
      If those were actually the first 4 shots, why all the concern from prosecution witnesses about the nickel-plated pistol. Behan: "the nickel-plated pistol was the first to fire". These witnesses seemed... more
      • Determined — Jones, Mon Apr 11 16:26
        • Jones/determined.... — Joyce A. Aros, Mon Apr 11 19:10
          ...It is only fair to offer 'the benefit of the doubt' to all the witnesses and as you say, most were truth tellers, at least six seem quite reliable. We have people caught in the moment and others... more
          • Testimonies — Jones, Tue Apr 12 12:42
            I found value in all the testimonies. Even those, that for whatever reason, are incorrect. Regarding the testimony: I think people under estimate how much is missing. Ike spent two or three days... more
            • Testmonies, are there missing bits. — Gail Allan, Tue Apr 12 21:02
              I do not think there are missing parts of the testimony. Here's why. We have the original court reporters pages, and the Nugget's reporting for the Coroner's inquest. Keep in mind the Nugget's reporte... more
              • re: are there missing bits — Jones, Wed Apr 13 10:32
                Ike Clanton's testimony November 9-15, 1881 Ike spent four days in the court room. The entirety of his testimony can be read aloud in one hour. That's a lot of court room time for what little verb... more
                • Testimonies and courtroom time. — Gail Allan, Wed Apr 13 12:06
                  Jones if you've ever been in a courtroom you'll know it takes a lot more time to get the work done than just the time it would take to read the transcripts out loud. I was in a jury on a medical malpr... more
                  • re: Testimonies and courtroom time — Jones, Wed Apr 13 13:18
                    I've managed to dodge jury duty up to this point so I'll take your word for it. I didn't realize that only one hour of the spoken word was the norm for a weeks worth of testimony. Only the government... more
            • Testimonies... — Joyce A. Aros, Tue Apr 12 17:22
              I am evaluating the whole thing from the existing recorded testimonies. I do not change a word. I know that there are sure to be many other words spoken at the time but we don't have those, do we? So ... more
              • Jones/follow up to testimonies..... — Joyce A. Aros, Tue Apr 12 18:21
                ...please note in Virgil's testimony how he focuses on Billy Clanton, completely condensing the whole scenario by eliminating the attack on Frank and the shotgun blast at Tom. Virgil focuses totall... more
                • re: testimonies — Jones, Tue Apr 12 20:49
                  Agree with you on the Earp brothers story. I think the video is plenty clear about my opinion of the lawman story. I think they chose Billy as the initial shooter because he was farthest into the va... more
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