re: Addie and what she didn't see
Tue Apr 12, 2022 13:38

"Frank grabbed his gut and turned away toward the street..."
I've never heard this before.
Frank won't be shot until after he's out in the street.

(Q) How long did you continue to look at the parties after they met?
(A) Until they commenced to fire and I got up then and went into my back room.

I believe Addie. As soon as the shooting starts she heads to the back of the building. I expect she saw more then she's telling, but she's not talking.


  • Addie and what she didn't see....Joyce A. Aros, Mon Apr 11 2022 19:25
    ...Addie says she saw Doc step up to Frank, jab him in the gut with his pistol, step back a few steps and shots were fired. Frank grabbed his gut and turned away toward the street still holding the horse's... more
    • Doc's pistolPatrick mulligan, Tue Dec 20 2022 16:42
      The testimony given by the Prosecution witnesses seems to infer that Doc was using a nickel-plated revolver. That does not mesh with Addie's description of the weapon that was used to poke Frank in the... more
    • re: Addie and what she didn't see — Jones, Tue Apr 12 2022 13:38
      • Jones/why do you...Joyce A. Aros, Tue Apr 12 2022 18:13
        ...think Frank was not shot until after he was out in the street? He was shot in the gut. Doc was on the walkway area still and Frank would had had to stop and turn toward him if he was to be shot... more
        • Who shot FrankJones, Tue Apr 12 2022 21:53
          Sorry Joyce, but I'm not quite following along with this one. If frank was shot with one of the first shots he'd be staggering around on the sidewalk, not running out into the road. Yes, he has to... more
          • Jones, who shot Frank...Joyce A. Aros, Wed Apr 13 2022 11:11
            ...Addie saw Doc approach Frank and jab him in the gut with what she believed was a large pistol of sorts. Addie, as you noted, was a reluctant witness. When Doc prodded Frank and then stepped back a couple... more
            • re: who shot FrankJones, Wed Apr 13 2022 12:05
              Joyce wrote: "and Frank immediately turned and staggered toward her or her general direction." I don't recall this anywhere in the testimony. Joyce wrote: "Frank was gut-shot at the outset" By "outset"... more
              • Jones; Frank turned...Joyce A. Aros, Wed Apr 13 2022 19:47
                ....It was not in the testimony as you say, but how else did Frank's body end up on the other side of Fremont street, in the general area of her home which was almost across from Fry's? He was witnessed... more
                • re: Frank turnedJones, Wed Apr 13 2022 20:32
                  Interesting take on it. I like Addie. Took some guts for a single gal to live where she did. Best wishes, Jones
                  • Addie BourlandJoyce A. Aros, Thu Apr 14 2022 8:26
                    ...You will have to set those romantic interests aside, Jones. Addie's husband was a merchant from Arkansas, sold cigars pipes, stationary, confectionary and all kinds of fancy goods. he also invested... more
                    • MarriedJones, Thu Apr 14 2022 15:53
                      Addie was married! Darn it! Why are the good ones always taken ;-) Bet that gal had some interesting stories to tell. Best wishes, Jones
                    • William Bourland vs Samuel BorlandJerry Prather, Thu Apr 14 2022 10:18
                      Joyce, sorry to jump in here, but there are certain things you never forget. About 12 or 14 years ago, there was a mention of William Bourland being a member of the coroner's jury for the murder of Morgan... more
                      • Jerry/thank you!Joyce A. Aros, Thu Apr 14 2022 11:18
                        ...this is what we do in trying to help put the whole picture together in the right way. I appreciate your digging around and clearing up any discrepancies. And there is a discrepancy. Epitaph records... more
                        • What's in a nameJerry Prather, Thu Apr 14 2022 11:49
                          Joyce, this kind of reminds me of the confusion between Billy Allens. For years we read that Doc Holliday encountered the Billy Allen that witnessed the shootout when he ended up in Leadville, Colorado.... more