Gail Allan
Testmonies, are there missing bits.
Tue Apr 12, 21:02

I do not think there are missing parts of the testimony. Here's why. We have the original court reporters pages, and the Nugget's reporting for the Coroner's inquest. Keep in mind the Nugget's reporter took short hand, and the idea they left large parts of the testimony out is IMO not credible. In addition these were court records. The people giving the testimony had to swear an oath, read over the court reporters pages, and sign them. There are occassional corrections in the court reporter's pages. These are indications of the person making corrections. Why would these people perjure themselves by signing a court document that doesn't contain everything they said in their testimony.

The testimony is certainly frustrating, as we have lots of questions, and the will never get the answers we want from the testimony. However that doesn't mean that the court reporter left out large amounts of what was said, and the newspapers just went along with it.

    • TestimoniesJones, Tue Apr 12 12:42
      I found value in all the testimonies. Even those, that for whatever reason, are incorrect. Regarding the testimony: I think people under estimate how much is missing. Ike spent two or three days... more
      • Testmonies, are there missing bits. — Gail Allan, Tue Apr 12 21:02
        • re: are there missing bitsJones, Wed Apr 13 10:32
          Ike Clanton's testimony November 9-15, 1881 Ike spent four days in the court room. The entirety of his testimony can be read aloud in one hour. That's a lot of court room time for what little verb... more
          • Testimonies and courtroom time.Gail Allan, Wed Apr 13 12:06
            Jones if you've ever been in a courtroom you'll know it takes a lot more time to get the work done than just the time it would take to read the transcripts out loud. I was in a jury on a medical malpr... more
            • re: Testimonies and courtroom timeJones, Wed Apr 13 13:18
              I've managed to dodge jury duty up to this point so I'll take your word for it. I didn't realize that only one hour of the spoken word was the norm for a weeks worth of testimony. Only the government... more
      • Testimonies...Joyce A. Aros, Tue Apr 12 17:22
        I am evaluating the whole thing from the existing recorded testimonies. I do not change a word. I know that there are sure to be many other words spoken at the time but we don't have those, do we? So ... more
        • Jones/follow up to testimonies.....Joyce A. Aros, Tue Apr 12 18:21
          ...please note in Virgil's testimony how he focuses on Billy Clanton, completely condensing the whole scenario by eliminating the attack on Frank and the shotgun blast at Tom. Virgil focuses totall... more
          • re: testimoniesJones, Tue Apr 12 20:49
            Agree with you on the Earp brothers story. I think the video is plenty clear about my opinion of the lawman story. I think they chose Billy as the initial shooter because he was farthest into the va... more
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