Thank you for this, Jones. I was not aware of the "Famous Trials" page and it will be a useful "go to" document when I want to check out some of the testimony. I do notice that assistant district attorney W.S. Williams' testimony is not in the three source documents you sent me. Did you for some reason decide his testimony was of little or no importance?Were the Hatch and Lucas testimonies from Turner's or the Hayhurst manuscript or were they from the NUGGET or EPITAPH reporting of the testimony? I ask because it does not appear that you had access to the newspaper versions. The EPITAPH has a couple of paragraphs of Mrs. King's testimony that appear nowhere else. Only the EPITAPH version includes a sentence of Lucas's testimony that is of great importance and answers a question about a controversial statement that Spicer made in his decision statement. The NUGGET's report on Hatch's testimony contains parts that are condensed or truncation in Turner's.
I don't have access to my Nugget and Epitaph transcripts right now, but do have this post I did a few years back about the part of Lucas's testimony I noticed that appears nowhere else to my knowledge. Thank you for all the thought, time, and effort you put into your graphic presentation. I've never seen anything quite like it.
BOB CASH
Further disparities in Turner transcript
Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:03
In the EPITAPH version, Judge Lucas, after describing Billy standing and firing his pistol, says he looked elsewhere for a moment and as he looked back at Billy, "JUST THEN I saw from his movements that he was wounded." This "Just then..." does not appear in the NUGGET or Turner version. However another entire sentence that does not appear in Turner does appear in both the newspapers' transcripts and it also speaks to Lucas seeing Billy fire before and after he saw him appear to be wounded. After the next few sentences, in which Lucas describes Billy's struggle to hold himself up and eventually sliding down the wall (essentially the same in Turner, EPITAPH and NUGGET), both papers quote Lucas thusly, " I think his pistol was discharged twice FROM THE TIME I THOUGHT HE WAS HIT(my emphasis) until he was down on the ground." Even without the qualifier "just then" that appears in The EPITAPH, this sentence from Lucas (missing entirely in Turner) clearly demonstrates that Spicer was NOT wrong, as most of us thought for years, when stating, "...Judge Lucas says he saw him fire or in the act of firing several shots before he was shot...". I have no idea whether these omissions were errors on the part of Hayhurst, Lake, or Turner.
Judge J. H. Lucas testimony from the EPITAPH transcript:
“I was sitting in my office and heard a couple of reports from guns or pistols. I hesitated a moment and heard a couple more reports. I then started for the upper hall door; whilst going I heard four or five or perhaps more reports. When I got to the door I cast my eyes up and down the street. I saw a man I supposed to have been Billy Clanton standing in front of a little house just below fly’s building. He had his pistol up, and I thought was firing. For fear of a stray ball I drew my head in for an instant. I looked again, and still saw him standing there with his pistol and as I thought fighting. I drew my head in again. I looked again and still saw him with his pistol. I continued to look at him for a moment and saw no one else at that time that I thought was in the fight or had weapons. JUST THEN I saw from his movement that he was wounded. His body seemed to bend a little, his pistol went up above his head as he seemed to be in the act of falling. In struggling to prevent himself from falling. I think he caught with his hand on the window or wall, partly turning around. He continued to struggle until he got clean down on the ground. I THINK HIS PISTOL WAS DISCHARGED TWICE FROM THE TIME I THOUGHT HE WAS HIT UNTIL HE WAS DOWN ON THE GROUND. About the time he got on the ground the firing ceased.”