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I'm ok with Lucas for the most part.
He sees Billy firing his gun from the corner of the little house and has the fight ending when Billy is disabled. Fits in well enough with the rest of the testimony.
The part about having his gun in the air is questionable.

This render is taken from the second story of Girds block at the door closest to 4th street.
Certainly less than exacting, but I think it makes the point that Lucas' view could easily be blocked. In this pic Virgil and Wyatt can't be seen because they are in the vacant lot. The views of the others are blocked because of awning posts, railing, and in the real world who knows what else. (Frank, the horse, and Doc can just barely be seen on the far right.)

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/amvqxqftxsf8q9i/OK_View_Lucas.png?dl=0

If his view was from one of the doors farther west, then the view changes and I see no reason he shouldn't have seen more of the combatants.

Jones

Series — Jones, Mon Apr 18 14:32
Let me start by saying, it didn't turn out the way I thought it would either. I think this will help to explain a lot. If I was going to explain to someone how to recreate the sim, looking back on... more

re: re: Sources — Jones, Mon Apr 18 14:25
Bob Cash wrote: "I do notice that assistant district attorney W.S. Williams' testimony is not in the three source documents ..." First time I've heard of him. If he had eyes on the fight it would be... more
- Re: re: re: Sources — Bob Cash, Mon Apr 18 14:51
  Jones, W.S. Williams was a newly appointed assistant District Attorney who testified about a conversation he heard John Behan have with Virgil Earp on the evening of October 26th. He was not a witnes... more
- - Who fired first? — Bob Cash, Mon Apr 18 21:13
    Did Richard Rule's article and William's testimony make the case that Behan changed his original story? http://www.tombstonehistoryarchives.com/o.k.-corral-a-gunfight-shrouded-in-mystery.html ... more
  - - Bob/ just thinking...again — Joyce A. Aros, Thu Apr 21 16:32
      ...I am wondering why you visualize Tom McLaury, who the Earps claim was armed with a pistol and actually attempted to use it, trying to get a rifle off of Billy's horse? If Tom had a pistol, with ... more
  - - re: Who fired first? — Jones, Tue Apr 19 14:33
      When I first started the project I didn't know who fired the first shots. So I just left everyone's hands at their sides, then continued on with the rest of the fight. After the fist two shots the t... more
    - - Jones/see my post to Bob Cash.... — Joyce A. Aros, Tue Apr 19 18:47
        ...about Doc's switcharoo. It's quite simple and we have all done it a lot of times when fixing fence, yard work, repairs on the house, ect.
  - - Bob, unless you have a good reason... — Joyce A. Aros, Tue Apr 19 7:44
      ...to reject Kehoe's testimony, I think you might examine it again. He is an excellent position to see what happened in the street. He cannot see into the lot as he is in front of Bauer's, but the Ear... more

As usual, I have a problem... — Joyce A. Aros, Mon Apr 18 5:16
...with Judge Lucas this time. Is there anyone I don't have a problem with? It's 4:00 am so can't sleep and might as well read. I am not looking at the picture of the Gird building right now but se... more
- Lucas — Jones, Mon Apr 18 15:46
- - not very comforting... — Joyce A. Aros, Tue Apr 19 6:53
    ...I would not like to be the defendant and have you as a juror. I'd like to think a juror would expect more of of a witness than to determine 'that's okay,' or 'good enough.' What he says he see... more
  - - Legalize — Jones, Tue Apr 19 14:40
      That made me lol :-) I've never considered the fight from a legal standpoint. I'll leave that for the lawyers. When Lucas gets to the door, Billy is already at the corner of the little house. Lu... more
    - - Jones/ I think Lucas, from his own description... — Joyce A. Aros, Wed Apr 20 7:24
        ...never left his chair until he heard the first two shots. The first shot would have been the duel shots fired at the same time by Doc and Morgan, so close they sounded as one. The second one he hear... more

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