Randolph W. Farmer
Well surprise,surprise.
Thu Jul 28, 10:47

Curly Bill was sighted off and on in Arizona by people who knew him, long after his alleged death in 1882. By late 1882 he could literally walk from his house to the railroad depot in Paris, Texas and ride the train all the way to Benson, Arizona and on to California. There was one account in the 1890s I believe, that had him in Benson with a bunch of cattle buyers. In the 1880 census Bill was listed as a “cattle dealer” in Paris, Texas.

Why Paris, Texas? Family, for one. He married in 1883 a lady from his old neighborhood. People in Paris knew how to keep quiet - it had been a center of resistance to the Federal government during Reconstruction times (1865-1873). Also being the gateway to Indian Territory it was a center of criminal activity - illegal alcohol sales, livestock “trading”, etc. with the Native American tribes, who also kept their mouths shut, being no friends of the Federal government either.

Paris was also a major hub of the cattle industry. Paris was home of the Franco-Texas Cattle Company, a massive international venture with hundreds of thousands of acres of prime grazing land. Paris was also the only city that had a municipal abbatoir for slaughtering cattle. I presented evidence in my book for Bill Brosius (or Brocius, if you must) working as a cattle detective and having prior ties to the Slaughter family of Texas and Arizona. Members of that family had a large cattle operation in California by the 1890’s. Curly Bill was a railroad detective in New Mexico in the 1870’s, and as C. C. Slaughter was the richest man in Texas by the 1890’s it is likely that Bill was working as a cattle detective for the family in the 1890’s. This was part of his law enforcement background that got him elected City Marshal of Paris, (3 times),his first term beginning in 1895, a year after Peter’s story of him attending a religious service in Arizona. Being a father and married man for 11 years by then, I’m sure he was a church-going upstanding Texas citizen at that time. Like many psychopaths, he had changed sides to survive.

  • Bob Cash? Anyone?Peter Love, Wed Jul 27 19:13
    What made me think a bit more of this one than the usual rubbish is that it was in Arizona and “everyone knew who he was”
    • Well surprise,surprise. — Randolph W. Farmer, Thu Jul 28 10:47
      • Great stuffPeter Love, Thu Jul 28 16:26
        Randy Must have another look at your book. I had been hoping for some more developments on this old debate. I still doubt the story that Wyatt killed him by shotgun in a fluke encounter. Of all the... more
        • Curly Bill referencesRandolph W. Farmer, Fri Jul 29 7:21
          If you can get ahold of a copy of Curly Bill: Horse Thief, Cattle Dealer, Murderer, Lawman: 1858-1909, you can find the primary references I used by checking the footnotes. Page 134"Lorenzo Walters... more
    • Curly BillRoy B Young, Thu Jul 28 7:44
      Exactly, Bob. Further evidence (though minimal) that Wyatt did not kill Curly Bill any more than he killed John Ringo, both of which he erroneously claimed.
      • YupRandolph W. Farmer, Thu Jul 28 11:23
        Wyatt was just getting in line. Lots of people claimed to have killed John Ringo. After all, pulp fiction was profitable back then. The old timers, though, especially the ones that served on Ringo’s inquest,... more
        • Re: YupB.J., Thu Jul 28 20:29
          Years ago, one legal historian said the reason Ringo’s death was on the spot ruled a suicide was to avoid having to transport his rotting body back to Tombstone for an autopsy. As a native Arizonan... more
          • HistoryRandolph W. Farmer, Sat Jul 30 8:00
            Are you working on your Masters in History? If so, good for you! Speaking of, here’s a recent review of my latest book, courtesy of Midwest Book Review: https://media-exp1.licdn.com/dms/image/C4D2DA... more
            • Re: HistoryB.J., Thu Aug 11 20:37
              Yes, about 70% completed. Something I learned during my history research and also from other Historians: The history legends are an important part of history. This would include movies, books and... more
              • Interesting theoryRandolph. W. Farmer, Fri Aug 12 4:23
                Sounds like a thesis! Or at least an article to build up the old CV. Hopefully I’ll get to read your thesis someday. The intersection of folklore and history or something like that; I confess it’s beyond... more
                • Re: Interesting theoryB.J., Sat Aug 13 15:42
                  Thanks Randolph. However, I decided not to write a thesis. I am taking an extra two graduate level classes including writing a series of research papers on various history topics. Tombstone History is... more