Bob Cash
Re: Bob/ Vaughn's accounts.....
Fri Aug 05, 12:33

I find nothing in my research of Frank Vaughn to suggest he was anything but an upstanding citizen. However, as I pointed out in a previous post, many "eyewitnesses" of Tombstone events apparently related accounts they thought were true, but added themselves as eyewitnesses to make their case stronger. A.H. Gardiner, one of the founders of Helldorado and as equally an upstanding citizen as Vaughn, claimed to see Wyatt Earp single-handedly stand off a mob of several hundred that wanted to lynch Johhny Behind the Deuce. This probaly raises questions for you as well as me, but I've found nothng that would question Gardiner's reputation as an honest well regarded ctizen. Melvin Jones and Judge Hancock, both respected pioneers, claimed to know Curly Bill, except one of them said Curly was William Graham, while the other said Wlliam Graham was another cowboy, but was not Curly Bill. Two diamerically opposed "eyewitness" accounts from two seemingly honest guys who were definitely on the ground in Cochise County in Curly Bill's time.

So while I agree with you that Vaughn and Slaughter were "men of some integrity and it did not make sense to write off their statements without further follow-up and serious investigation" the fact that they had integrity does not do much to proove their assertions. I leave you with two questions, if Ike Clanton, as Vaghn says, was an eyewitness to Doc being in the vicinity of the Benson stage incident, why, in hs testimony in the Spicer hearing, did he fail to to relate that fact or that the McLaurys were also eyewitnesses, rather tha stating the unbelivable story that the only way he knew of Doc's involvement was through Doc's confession to Ike? And if Ike, Vaughn, the McLaurys and Slaughter had testified in a hearing, why would Ike's attorneys not utilize that trial's transcripts to proove that the motive for the street fight (or murder) was Ike's and the McLaurys knowledge of Doc's alleged activities?

  • Bob/ Vaughn's accounts.....Joyce A. Aros, Wed Aug 03 8:57
    ...Frank Vaughn is an interesting man, apparently. His record as an Arizona pioneer at a time when everyday life became an opportunity for greater things for almost everyone who wanted to progress is a... more
    • Re: Bob/ Vaughn's accounts..... — Bob Cash, Fri Aug 05 12:33
      • Not only Vaughn...Joyce A. Aros, Sat Aug 06 4:30
        Integrity is crucial in an investigation, as you say, but my concern from the beginning is why did the DA write it all off with a flip "...not even a suspicion..." It appears that even with substantial... more
        • Re: Not only Vaughn...Bob Cash, Fri Aug 12 15:28
          "Integrity is crucial in an investigation, as you say, but my concern from the beginning is why did the DA write it all off with a flip '...not even a suspicion...' It appears that even with substantial... more
          • Bob, darned if we aren't going to...Joyce A. Aros, Tue Aug 16 13:42
            ...disagree again! I hope I am not being terribly obstinate, but my sense of fair play does extend to the cowboys a little more than those sleazy Earps. You might find I have little respect for the... more
            • Re: Bob, darned if we aren't going to...Bob Cash, Sat Aug 20 15:09
              First of all, Joyce, I am 72, so I am not and hve not accused anybody of dementia. I am saying that 40 or 50 years after an event memories can get hazy and they can become ultra-sharp, even remembering... more
              • Well, shucks!...Joyce A. Aros, Sat Aug 20 16:50
       put up a good argument and I didn't mean to suggest you accused anyone of dementia; just that youngsters often view us as on the verge. I can't argue with you on this particular presentation; I... more
                • Shucks...sharon Cunningham, Tue Aug 23 7:32
                  Just give yourself 8 more years and you'll be defensive!!