Joyce A. Aros
Casey/ a little more about...
Sun Nov 20, 6:48


...the 'dream team,' on both sides. I am really concerned about the willingness to accept the outstanding credentials of these men and yet I see what I consider very poor performance. I suspicion their credentials were in their briefcases, but maybe should have been on the table in front of them to remind them of what their job was; especially the Prosecution.

Ike got off the attack on Virgil because it was established by witnesses that he was nowhere in the vicinity, not because his lawyer was brilliant. Unless, of course, you can give me his lawyer's brilliant oratory. Then I would have to shut up.

Attorneys did indeed flock to Tombstone because the mining industry was so lucrative. As for their spending a good deal of time defending the likes of troublemakers like Ike, Ringo, and others, I claim ignorance. Were there really that many cases filling up their schedules, or were they busy with the mining interests?

I find a lot of what I consider mistakes so as my grannie used to say, "...talk is cheap; what have you accomplished?..." Couldn't pull the wool over her eyes. that's for sure.

I find Wes Fuller's testimony rather interesting, for example. He relates his vantage point just prior to the shoot-out. "...he was on Allen street between Third and Fourth streets, on the north side, just below the O. K. Corral, when he first saw Billy Clanton, Frank McLaury, and Johnny Behan on Fremont..."

I am assuming he is between the Visitor Center on the N. corner and the entrance to the O. K. across the street and it sounds like he is in the middle of the street as he goes on and describes the Earp groups activities. "...I was standing on the corner of Fourth and Allen streets, I mean not far from them, about ten or twelve feet..."

He also is close enough to notice that Holliday is putting a six-shooter in his coat pocket. He says he saw one in Morgan's pocket, on the right side. Wyatt had one pushed down in his pants on the right side a little. Seems to me he was close enough to be observant in detail; and the Earps are situating their weaponry in the middle of the intersection in full view of the gathering crowd of concerned onlookers!

And then Fuller relates his concern about Billy Clanton; his feeling he had better warn the kid to get out of town! Particularly Billy, for some reason, and the need to let them all know that there is a concern.

Now the Prosecution should, at this point, spill coffee on his credentials and be asking...WHY were you concerned about Billy Clanton in particular? You were close to the Earp group, did you hear something said that frightened you? What triggered your response?

If I was a lawyer I would have been all over that...but I think he was pre-occupied with wiping spilled coffee off of his magnificent credentials and now we will never know if there was reason for Fuller to comment in this way as the questions were never asked!!!




  • Truly a Dream TeamCasey Tefertiller, Sat Nov 19 8:38
    Joyce, You present a fascinating piece of sophistry on how Ike Clanton managed to select a remarkable bunch of boobs to run the prosecution of the Earps. You claim they were a bunch of mining attorneys... more
    • Casey/ a little more about... — Joyce A. Aros, Sun Nov 20 6:48
      • Let's try againCasey Tefertiller, Mon Nov 21 8:51
        Joyce, Let me try again. The purpose for attorneys on both sides was to win the case. That was their sole purpose. They were not trying to create a historical record because they anticipated... more
        • Casey/ trying again...Joyce A. Aros, Tue Nov 22 7:29
          Casey, Thank you for the crash course as there is always much to learn when it comes to complications of the Law at any time in history, and more so now. And in all fairness, one has to recognize that... more
          • Re: Casey/ trying again...Casey Tefertiller, Wed Nov 23 10:34
            Joyce, Before I can respond, I need to ask a couple of questions. First, why do you believe Billy Clanton was still sitting on his horse? I would have expected he would have dismounted, but that... more
            • To continue,,,,,Joyce A. Aros, Wed Nov 23 15:58
              ...I think you are being a little unfair in assuming Ike was 'shooting off his mouth' to anyone he could. Actually, other than the episode in the courtroom after Virgil arrested him, no one who witnessed... more
            • Casey/ Thank you for your kindness....Joyce A. Aros, Wed Nov 23 13:44
              ...regarding the Holliday time. People my age find that most of their family are spread all over the country and time and distance make a difference in gathering together. No one comes to grandma's house... more