Joyce A. Aros
Casey/ trying again...
Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:29

Casey, Thank you for the crash course as there is always much to learn when it comes to complications of the Law at any time in history, and more so now. And in all fairness, one has to recognize that the lawyers on both sides had almost no time to prepare for what they expected to be a short and relatively simple exercise. Literally a few days; but I do believe that with the time they had, they short-changed themselves by not doing a little investigating or examining possible witnesses. Lack of good preparation is very obvious to me.

Except in the case of Fitch, who recognized they were under the wire. He bought some time from Spicer and had Wyatt hurriedly write out the whole story from his point of view. And that alone is what Fitch depended upon. Of course, he did keep in reserve his ace-in-the-hole, the mysterious Mr. Sills if things went a little shaky.

Lawyers today have the opportunity and responsibility to rehearse their witness's testimony; not in the sense of telling them what to say, but in the sense of being sure of HOW they say it. Our guys we are discussing apparently did not have that luxury so we need to cut them a little slack, I guess.

That being said, I still expect them to be able to think on their feet. They have the credentials, they should be a little quicker on the return and they were not.

You raise the point about Mr. Sills. For a Prosecution lawyer to let that guy slide by...he had to be slow-witted; especially as he had plenty of back-up! However, they didn't seem to be paying much attention either.

Sills was asked about threats he had heard. His response was this: "...I saw four or five men standing in front of the O.K. corral, talking of some trouble they had had with Virgil Earp, and they made threats at the time, that on meeting him they would kill him on sight..."

So we know he is on Allen street between Dunbar's corral and the entrance to the O.K. corral as the ranchers were never at the O.K. on Fremont. Interestingly, while the ranchers are having this conversation, they seem unconcerned that this stranger is near enough to over-hear all their threats. Sills even says "...I was within four or five steps of them..."

Have any of the Prosecution lawyers sitting on their hands tried to visualize how close is 'four or five' steps from this group of killers? Should we assume that the cowboys don't even realize at this point that the man in town clothing is not one of their group???

This man, four or five steps from the group of ranchers, now tells us he could not tell us what kind of clothes they had on! He could describe Billy Clanton to a T, even guessing his age accurately, but at four or five steps didn't even notice if the boy was wearing a hat! But he could describe his complexion! To top it off, while only steps away from Billy, he doesn't seem to notice the boy is ON A HORSE!

This only gets better line by line! Credentials apparently don't tell the whole story. In this case, some simple paying attention would have helped. There seems to be no explanation for such nonsense, but there's a whole lot more if you like. We haven't even scratched the surface, as Fitch and Spicer are going to continue with this man and the Prosecution is still trying to wipe up the spilled coffee!

I think the Prosecution might do better working at the local corrals, as they are not going to outsmart Spicer and Fitch, for sure.

  • Let's try againCasey Tefertiller, Mon Nov 21 2022 8:51
    Joyce, Let me try again. The purpose for attorneys on both sides was to win the case. That was their sole purpose. They were not trying to create a historical record because they anticipated... more
    • and for meButch Badon, Wed Jan 04 14:08
      Price was in the tank for the Earps and Holliday. Williams (can't remember his first name) was a man who had served as a lawyer for the Earps in other legal matters. Why was Williams, by Price's appointment,... more
      • Butch/ that one is so...Joyce A. Aros, Thu Jan 05 4:50
        ...frequently overlooked, and yet it is a key point. It should be developed.
    • Casey/ trying again... — Joyce A. Aros, Tue Nov 22 2022 7:29
      • Interesting observationButch Badon, Thu Jan 05 12:04
        Joyce. About complications of the law I mean. My dad always expressed his amazement that we Americans elected so many lawyers to make our laws for us. For him the ultimate conflict of interest was lawyers... more
      • Re: Casey/ trying again...Casey Tefertiller, Wed Nov 23 2022 10:34
        Joyce, Before I can respond, I need to ask a couple of questions. First, why do you believe Billy Clanton was still sitting on his horse? I would have expected he would have dismounted, but that... more
        • To continue,,,,,Joyce A. Aros, Wed Nov 23 2022 15:58
          ...I think you are being a little unfair in assuming Ike was 'shooting off his mouth' to anyone he could. Actually, other than the episode in the courtroom after Virgil arrested him, no one who witnessed... more
          • AgreedButch Badon, Thu Jan 05 12:12
            Folks who support the Earps continue to pose that Ike was the agressor. When Ike came into the Alhambra on Oct. 25, he began to eat the lunch he ordered. No harsh words were spoken until Morgan and Wyatt... more
        • Casey/ Thank you for your kindness....Joyce A. Aros, Wed Nov 23 2022 13:44
          ...regarding the Holliday time. People my age find that most of their family are spread all over the country and time and distance make a difference in gathering together. No one comes to grandma's house... more
          • The Dream Team was winningCasey Tefertiller, Fri Dec 02 2022 11:41
            Joyce, I have been tied up, but I wanted to clear up some points. Your initial complaint was that — in your opinion — the Dream Team did a lousy job. That is clearly not true because until almost... more
            • If the Clantons and their confederatesButch Badon, Thu Jan 05 12:23
              were such despicable characters, why is it they had so many friends in town (and please, butchers were a small percentage of the residents of Tombstone)? Even the pro-Earp Epitaph said the Clanton-McLaury... more
            • Casey/ yup! a lousy job...Joyce A. Aros, Sat Dec 03 2022 9:57
     a number of ways. However, let's not forget that if poor Will McLaury, who was no criminal lawyer, had not seen what he was up against, it might have been worse. When he arrived and could see the... more