Joyce A. Aros
It has been said...
Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:55

...that the responsibility of an Historian is to dispel myths. How do we do that? What is the right approach? Myths run rampant in almost every presentation regarding the Tombstone story. Can they be sorted out or 'dispelled?'

    • Joyce, I suspectolds, Wed Dec 07 2022 14:12
      that you may be confusing concepts. What you call "the Tombstone Story," the, so to say, crown jewel of which is the so-called gunfight at the O.K. Corral, is indeed mythic. That is, it has over time... more
      • Olds/ I think what you are....Joyce A. Aros, Wed Dec 07 2022 16:24
        ...trying to say so that I can understand it , is 'Crap, Joyce! Give it up! It can't be done.' Well, I read you over several times to see if I could understand but decided that was what I got out... more
        • Joyce, I'm sorryolds, Thu Dec 08 2022 6:25
          that you have difficulty understanding me, but then, as Andre Gide once wrote, "Please, do not understand me too quickly." Maybe you just need more time to mull. The thrust of what was I trying to say,... more
          • Olds/ mulling continuously...Joyce A. Aros, Fri Dec 09 2022 6:11
            ...You said something that I think made some sense to me. The difference between factual inaccuracies and myths. If I understand correctly, this is a comparison I need to grasp. But I think one blends... more
            • Unfortunately, if we areolds, Fri Dec 09 2022 10:37
              going to be precise and accurate in the way we use the language, to sufficiently answer your questions requires opening the pandora's box (which is itself a myth) of definitions. What, for instance, are... more
              • Smoke & Mirrors!....Joyce A. Aros, Fri Dec 09 2022 12:00
                ...As you probably knew it would, I got bogged down heavily until I got to "Perhaps..." And that is where I am. Trying to establish how and why these inaccuracies developed in the first place!... more
                • There is a whole otherolds, Fri Dec 09 2022 12:46
                  if no less abstract discussion to be had about the difference between Fact and Truth, but I will spare us both the "boggy" agony of going there.
                  • the "boggy" agony of going there...Dan Brown, Tue Dec 13 2022 16:18
                    I have to admit you have a way with words. A good way, actually.
                    • He certainly doesButch Badon, Thu Jan 05 11:54
                      And I hang onto every word of his writings. Butch
                    • Half the time, Dan,olds, Wed Dec 14 2022 5:41
                      I suspect that it's the words that are having their way with me, but I learned long ago not to fight their flow when they're flowing. Swimming against their tide gets you nowhere fast. It's a dance. They... more
                      • Remember what they saidDan Brown, Mon Dec 19 2022 22:35
                        About Ginger Rogers: she did everything Fred did and she did it backwards. You're all right on those tricky parts. Just keep the toes tapping.
          • Wow!!! You made my day!....Joyce A. Aros, Thu Dec 08 2022 7:47
            ...Thank you for your understanding and encouragement. I feel much better and more likely to accomplish some form of....accomplishment? You are very kind in that you shrank the whole thing down to... more
            • Re: Wow!!! You made my day!....Dan Brown, Tue Dec 13 2022 16:22
              Whilst we may disagree to agree, I harbor great admiration for your continuing spirited defense of those cowboys.
              • Dan, I am happy to know...Joyce A. Aros, Wed Dec 14 2022 5:48
                ...that you are enjoying these exchanges so much. Disagreement with patience is how we learn. Somebody has to defend those guys so I guess I will soldier on. Stick around; there are some interesting questions... more
    • Re: It has been said... (edited)B.J., Wed Dec 07 2022 10:26
      The Peer Review process is very important in determining the validity of any research document prior to publication. Whenever I complete a history research document for my history-masters program, my... more
      • But can we be sure that the peer...Joyce A. Aros, Wed Dec 07 2022 13:01 in itself is faultless? There are many history books out there that contain errors and some are subject to influence from myths that have developed, mine own included. Re-examination is always... more
        • Re: But can we be sure that the peer...B.J., Sat Dec 10 2022 1:15
          One of the first things which I have learned in my history graduate program: How little which I really knew about scholastic research. Also how some historians & history buff’s belief systems and... more
          • The McLaurysSharon Cunningham, Thu Dec 15 2022 8:05
            Discuss with Pam Potter, too, B.J. She, Paul J and the McLaury boys are all cousins!!
          • BJ/ I think we finally agree...Joyce A. Aros, Sat Dec 10 2022 8:35
   some degree on something. But I don't see the McLaurys doing much high finance wheelin' and dealin.'
          • Hey Olds…B.J., Sat Dec 10 2022 1:30
            please remember to empty your vocabulary foley bag prior to posting a philosophical response my friend 😆
        • Peer ReviewB.J., Thu Dec 08 2022 1:21