olds
By the way, Bob,
Sun May 14, 11:35

if the source of those statements was a newspaper and not a person--and thanks for setting me straight on that--it changes nothing save to discredit that newspaper owing to its appalling lack of journalistic and ethical standards. To publish that is utterly, provocatively irresponsible, the sort of deliberately teasing, titillating stuff that you find in the worst sort of gossip rags.

We complain, and justly so, about the quality of journalism these days, but back then it was typically abysmal, which can only pose a serious challenge for historians who often must to some extent rely upon them when doing their research. No enviable task, I should think, attempting to separate the wheat from the chaff, or perhaps it is what such types enjoy doing.

  • Thanks for those articles.olds, Sun May 14 8:51
    Fascinating stuff. End of the day, all considered, what it comes down to, I suppose, is how one weighs the importance of one fact or factor against or over another, and ultimately that is a subjective... more
    • By the way, Bob, — olds, Sun May 14 11:35
    • Re: Thanks for those articles.Bob Cash, Sun May 14 10:04
      olds, you asked: You mention law enforcement officers. Are you including in that group forensic profilers and psychologists? I don't know. At least two are still posting, one who says Ringo's death is... more
      • That letter in Ringo's pocket....Robert Buckley, Sun May 14 12:10
        I've always leaned toward Ringo shooting himself....but, that letter in Ringo's pocket at the time of his death gives me pause. The letter was from the law office of James A. Zabriskie. Zabriskie was... more
        • Re: That letter in Ringo's pocket....Bob Cash, Thu May 18 8:51
          I don't know anything about the Tiffany case, Robert, but wasn't Zabriskie a top notch defense lawyer? Maybe it had something to do with charges against Ringo concerning shooting the guy for not accepting... more
          • Re: Re: That letter in Ringo's pocket....Robert Buckley, Thu May 18 18:26
            Bob, Zabriskie was the United States Disrict Attorney for the Territory of Arizona at that time. Actually, Zabriskie was named to that position a few days after Ringo's death if my memory is correct.... more
            • Re: Re: Re: That letter in Ringo's pocket....Bob Cash, Sat May 20 22:56
              Thank you so much, Robert, for pointing out that independent researchers could lon into the JSTOR site. Over the last 15 years or so I have again and again pulled up the first pages of articles I wanted... more
              • Bob, another article on JSTORRobert Buckley, Sun May 21 16:10
                Bob,it sounds like you have some catching up to do on JSTOR. I'll get you started with one of my favorite articles on the site. It was published in 1970 by the Montana Historical Society and written... more
                • Re: Bob, another article on JSTORBob Cash, Thu May 25 10:17
                  Thank you again, Robert. I truly appreciate it. This guy Robetts had some pretty interesting ideas about the street fight 53 years ago. I wonder if he ever followed up with anything else on the subject.... more