Bob Cash
Re: That explains it then.
Fri May 26, 11:06

Olds, you should finish reading this highly educational post and then immediately order RIDE THE DEVIL'S HERD. Bossenecker is no slouch when it comes to research, but in this book his skills are combined with the research of the late, great, much missed and deeply mourned Paul Cool's to provide the most in-depth account of the "cowboy scourge" available. Also the most up to date info on the Earps, much of it negative.

Unfortunately, on Ringo's death he has one glaring factual failure in that he says the coroner's inquest ruled it a suicide (they did not). Otherwise, he goes along with Billy Breakenridge's take on the circumstances of that alleged suicide. He labels as fiction the story that Claiborne said Leslie killed Ringo. However, he also quotes Breakenridge's HELLDORADO on the same subject, "Frank Leslie tried to curry favor with the Earp sympathizers by claiming that he met Ringo and had to kill him in self defense, but the evidence proved this to be a lie. We all knew that Leslie would not care to tackle him even when he was drunk". This seems to indicate that Leslie was taking credit for the kill fairly soon after the death.

And, yes, most serious authors (Tefertiller, Roberts, Gatto, Brand, Bossenecker, Young) among others) have concluded or heavily leaned toward suicide. The only serious author I can think of who doesn't rule out suicide but thinks there are just too many unanswered questions to exclude the possibility of homicide is Jeff Morey. Ken Vail, a serious researcher (this could be confirmed if he would reveal his sources) but, unfortunately, not an author, leaned toward Frank Leslie, I believe.

  • That explains it then.olds, Fri May 26 7:19
    Dumb as it sounds, a misunderstanding about local politics leading to one thing leading to another leading to what it ultimately led to. (Claiborne sounds like a real piece of work, but then Leslie apparently... more
    • Adding my recSarah Stegall, Sun May 28 3:15
      Just want to say that I recently finished Boessenecker’s book, and it’s terrific. Highly recommended.
    • Re: That explains it then. — Bob Cash, Fri May 26 11:06
      • I unfailingly find your postsolds, Fri May 26 21:22
        edifying, Bob, among other things. You've certainly furthered my education on this subject, for which many thanks. Problem is, the more I know, the more I remain partial to my original position. I... more
        • Re: I unfailingly find your postsBob Cash, Sat May 27 10:51
          Here's a motive that Ken Vail posited for Leslie, or any number of Cochise County characters.
          • Bob CashPeter Brand, Sat May 27 21:20
            Bob I say this sincerely - you are the main reason I drop in on this discussion board. Your knowledge and research and measured delivery always impresses me. Keep it up. Cheers PB
            • Re: Bob CashBob Cash, Sun May 28 14:21
              Thank you, Peter. I really apptreciate that. I wish my posts would lure more world class authors and researchers (unlike me) back to the board, like you. I'm sure people would be more interested in how... more
              • Re: Re: Bob CashB.J., Sun May 28 21:06
                Hey Bob, I have communicated with Tefertiller several times recently. He did not mention anything (about being included in the group of non-posters)
                • Re: Re: Re: Bob CashBob Cash, Sun May 28 23:04
                  B.J., all I meant by my post is that none of those mentioned post here nearly as much as they used to. I think you have done an excellent job in trying to maintain a site with a welcoming vibe.
                  • BobB.J., Mon May 29 20:55
                    Of all the people who post here, you have the most balanced historical perspective of events, protagonists and antagonists. I have learned that no matter how objective most historians are and try to... more
                  • Thx BobB.J., Mon May 29 1:55
                    I have never understood using silence as a form of communication. If informed of a problem, problem solving can implemented .
          • Hmm.olds, Sat May 27 13:31
            So the conjecture is that the motive would have been the reward money offered by this Protective Association? ($1,000 then would be roughly $30,000 now.) As motives go, plausible enough, I suppose, though... more