That's way more than I ever got around to putting up...
Tue May 31, 2022 4:17am


I've got an Atari 400 that I've never done anything with. Got it at a Thrift Store just before we were to move and never did anything more than turn it on. I should test it and rehome it.

  • Computer Museum - Joe, Sun May 29 2022 12:41pm
    I have made a new section of my site listing my old computers in my collection. Not all of them are up yet. actually I think only half are up. I am currently moving and so I'm remembering some of the dinosaurs I have, and being reminded that my parents house still has a couple 386s :) and my Commodore... more
    • That's way more than I ever got around to putting up...- Puckdropper, Tue May 31 2022 4:17am
      • Not sure if you're looking to rehome locally though. I've been toying with the idea of picking up an Atari 800 for a bit now. A 400 would also work for what I'm looking to do (some basic programming and playing games). I was leaning towards the 800 mostly just for the fact it has a proper keyboard instead... more
        • I don't mind shipping it. It'll fit in one of these boxes - Puckdropper, Sun Jun 05 2022 3:20am
          around here. I'll have to take a look and see all that's there and figure out what the going rate is. Last I knew, it was the computer, some games (like 4), disk drive, and cassette player and cables to hook them up.
          • Awesome! Thanks! How heavy is everything? - Erik_, Mon Jun 13 2022 12:49pm
            I think the motherboard on those are encased in metal like the 2600s were. Does it weigh a ton? I wonder if shipping might be something crazy high?
            • It's kinda heavy... - Puckdropper, Mon Jun 20 2022 12:57am
              If it's too heavy, I'll put as much that fits into a Priority Mail flat rate box. I think it'll fit. Pirate Ship gives me access to commercial rates, so I can ship it UPS for quite a bit less than retail. (It's free, unlike stamps.com)
              • regardless of weight. "If it fits. it ships".
                • Or "how to get people to pay more for the same thing" - Puckdropper, Sun Jun 26 2022 12:00am
                  If you can, use a free Priority non-flat rate box and the rate will often be cheaper. It's just for dense things that flat rate makes sense. I think a large flat rate box runs about $18 to ship, I shipped some buildings last week in a larger box for only $11.
                  • when selling on stuff like eBay too. If I know it will fit in this size flat rate box, I know the shipping will be exactly this price. I know in the past, I didn't have things packaged and weighed before I put them on eBay. I didn't bother doing that until the item actually sold. That said, I've... more
                    • Yep, it's the trade off. Easy != Cheap - Puckdropper, Sat Jul 02 2022 5:01am
                      I usually weigh first, up the weight on eBay by at least one class (first class is up to 4 oz, then 8, 12, and 16) just in case things run a little heavier once packaged. But I'm not selling casually just slowly...
    • Awesome! I love pages like these. - Erik_, Tue May 31 2022 1:28am
      It's always cool to see what people have in their collection and their thoughts on them. I still have an small collection of stuff but nothing like I used to have in the 2000s. I'm still kicking myself for getting rid of how much I did. The IBM Selectric is really cool. The ball is good for fast typing.... more
      • Legend has it that's why QWERTY was invented. - Puckdropper, Tue May 31 2022 4:21am
        Maybe it's true, where most words require swapping hands to type. That was supposed to give time for the "hammers" to move out of the way as you typed.
        • I remember reading that as well at some point. - Erik_, Wed Jun 01 2022 1:10am
          QWERTY was a slower layout for right handed people because the non-dominate hand did most of the keystrokes which kept their WPM down. Being left handed, I guess I got a leg up for once? (unlike scissors or can openers... haha)
          • What makes scissors different? - Puckdropper, Sun Jun 05 2022 3:22am
            So why don't we switch to something better? Well, I guess it's why I've still got my Yahoo! e-mail address and don't use anything else. It's not THAT bad (actually, it's mostly good in "basic" mode) and I've been using it since before "keyboarding" class in high school.
            • when you use them on your left hand instead of your right. I think I might be one of the few people that uses the mouse with their left hand. Buttons are still the "righty" way though. It's been so long since I've had a Yahoo account, I can't even picture in my head what their email website looks... more
              • Ah, I see. Especially those with the molded "ergonomic" han - Puckdropper, Mon Jun 20 2022 1:05am
                dles, right? I tried using the mouse left handed for a while back in high school... It was easier to swap the buttons, but I can see how that would be difficult especially when you sit down at a computer to help someone. Wait, let me swap the buttons. No, it wasn't the button swap that fixed your... more
                • specific lefty and righty scissors and then the "universal" ones which were just without any molded handle. I probably got used to using the mouse buttons in the "righty" way for a reason like that. My family computer had the mouse on the right as everyone else in my family is right handed. My computer... more
                  • I can imagine getting yelled at for swapping the buttons - Puckdropper, Sat Jun 25 2022 11:58pm
                    So it was just easier to use them like that. I had an IBM Model M with swappable keycaps and changed them around to DVORAK. I tried using it for a while and decided I needed to use what everyone else did so I could use other computers. Some laptops can have their keycaps swapped easily, like a Lenovo... more
                    • ? While you were using it, did it feel like a better layout and you just switched for simplicity sake or was it just like the same regular QWERTY just having to relearn the keyboard layout?
                      • It was getting to the point where I wasn't looking at every - Puckdropper, Sat Jul 02 2022 5:02am
                        keycap. It just felt like I was learning everything all over again, I didn't really feel like it was any better or worse.
                        • Thanks. Good to know it's not really worth it. - Erik_, Thu Jul 07 2022 1:21pm
                          I think there was an Apple ii version (maybe c?) That had a switch above the keyboard to switch between the two. The key caps were still obviously in QWERTY but neat it was added as a feature. I wonder how many families thought their keyboards were broken after accidentally hitting the switch.
                          • Many! I have a IIc somewhere, I think that's on there - Puckdropper, Sat Jul 09 2022 4:21am
                            I kinda remember the "don't press that button, the keyboard gets all messed up." Man, I wish I had some more time to just play with some of the old computer stuff.
                            • on my 486 back in the day. I hit "CTRL ALT -" and heard a low beep. No idea what it did at the time except the computer was now running slow. I remember pressing each CTRL+ALT combo (besides DEL) until hitting "+" and hearing a high beep and the computer went back to how it was. I had previously... more
                              • Yes, I have a workshop that's child-disallowed - Puckdropper, Fri Jul 15 2022 4:31am
                                It's a nice space, a little cramped but whatever. My wife can do whatever she wants with the rest of the house, but this is MY space. My biggest problem has been time. I've got to keep the kids happy and busy while the wife works, so I'm a combination of bored and busy the whole day. Soon they'll... more
                                • At least for me. Going from being the center of their attention to not is going to be interesting (for lack of a better word). Right now, if there's things that need to get done during the day, for example mowing the lawn, I'll usually run out quick if it's not raining (or even if it is) on my day off... more
                                  • That's exactly it... Guys who are constantly tinkering with - Puckdropper, Mon Jul 18 2022 5:51am
                                    stuff need a place to tinker. You'll get depression pretty bad without being allowed to be yourself. I've still got to mow sometime, I'm not sure when that will work out. Got a full day tomorrow and gonna be busy moving, plus usually when my wife gets off work the last thing on our minds is her... more
                                    • Getting things tidy/neat has been on my TODO list for probably 3 years now. Same thing here with chores at the end of the day. Days I work and my wife watches our kid or visa versa, doing chores is the last thing on our minds too. I have a bad habit of going "Eh... I'll take care of that tomorrow"... more
                                      • An empty desk is the sign of an empty mind - Puckdropper, Mon Jul 25 2022 2:27am
                                        I just shut the gate so the kids don't mess with stuff and go about my other business. Nice. Sometimes I do clear off things, you just got to. Sometimes you have to admit your trash can is the best place for these parts you laid down and put them away. (I have a few parts that need to go there... more
    • Added a few more - Joe, Mon May 30 2022 9:23pm
      Really enjoying going through these!
      • Do you collect any tablets? - Puckdropper, Tue May 31 2022 4:24am
        Besides the iPod? They're kinda cool at times. (The Newton was awesome, still is. Android sucks, probably always will. Windows is decent, but it depends on who made your device. Imagine...expandable storage on a tablet.)
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