Found relevant xkcd
Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:25am

  • Python environment rant - Erik_, Sun Jul 10 2022 1:23am
    So, Ubuntu came with Python 2.7 installed on it when I first installed the OS way back however many years ago that was. Somehow, I managed to mangle up the "pip" package manager to the point where it would just crash out whenever I tried to use it. I ended up installing Python 3 as everyone says to avoid... more
    • Found relevant xkcd- Erik_, Sat Sep 10 2022 8:25am
    • Octoprint is now requring Python 3 - Puckdropper, Sun Jul 10 2022 3:02am
      Their instructions are "you're best off just saving your settings and reimaging the drive with the latest OS image." It's so nice to grab the binary and go or get the installer and have things done in 2-3 minutes. I've tried switching to Linux and have given it a good shot but keep coming back to... more
      • I was debating actually going that route too. - Erik_, Mon Jul 11 2022 4:51pm
        The version of Ubuntu I'm running is 16.04 which is EOL. I've been putting off upgrading to the latest version for a while now and if I couldn't get this going, it might have been enough to get me to finally do it. It definitely would have been easier to just start fresh and have everything work... more
        • Didn't you upgrade as things went along? - Puckdropper, Fri Jul 15 2022 4:22am
          Where Windows gets it wrong is you're dragged, kicking and screaming, to the next update. Still don't remember where I was, it decided to reboot after updates on me and I'm back to an empty desktop. DOES NO ONE UNDERSTAND HOW STRESSFUL IT IS TO FIND ALL YOUR STUFF GONE? "OH, WE SAVED IT." YEAH,... more
          • Finally upgraded to Ubuntu 22.04 - Erik_, Sun Sep 11 2022 12:34am
            I bought a 480GB (I think?) SSD hard drive from Amazon for cheap. After having the 250GB SSD for so long, I don't think I could go back to a spinning drive and how slow they are outside of vintage hobby stuff. What finally made me convert over was I found another free hosting service like Heroku... more
            • You've got that nice fresh feeling of being "current" - Puckdropper, Sat Sep 24 2022 3:34am
              And fortunately things haven't changed for no reason at all. :-) We were wondering... caches are supposed to be temporary but one wise man said "temporary often isn't." Any ideas on how to keep the useless cruft from filling up your drive?
          • from 16.04. Desktop support ended in 2021. I remember other installs getting a "dist upgrade" but maybe because this was a LTS version it didn't? Not sure. "it decided to reboot after updates on me and I'm back to an empty desktop." Ugh, yeah, I don't miss that at least. My Mac does it but... more
            • Maybe you didn't issue the magic commands? - Puckdropper, Tue Jul 19 2022 2:56am
              dist upgrade dist update dist upgrade dist update-from-releases dist update dist upgrade dist thing -nvrwrks That sounds totally plausible about it being a LTS. It sure does suck when your OS upgrade messes up a piece of hardware. Just because 99.9999% of the world doesn't use the cue cat,... more
              • You're probably right. - Erik_, Tue Jul 19 2022 9:33am
                That or I didn't fully read the output of it when I did. Good to know I'm not the only one that goes through spamming those commands. Same goes for apt sometimes as well. Speaking of apt and auto updating stuff. Ubuntu has been pushing "snaps" instead of the old "apt" way of doing things the past... more
                • You're welcome to use some of my system resources - Puckdropper, Mon Jul 25 2022 2:22am
                  It's just like visiting my house. Sure, wash your hands in my sink. Don't store your junk in my living room, though. Use my resources but don't abuse them. 6 GB free? You gotta clear your logs, man! That'll free up at least another 10 GB. Sometimes I think we need to stop isolating programmers... more
                  • I just cleaned up another 5GB from hidden files - Erik_, Tue Aug 09 2022 10:44am
                    From versions of software I don't have installed anymore. There's a few more gigs I could clear up if I cleaned out the ~/.cache dir but I'm not sure if anything will blow up if I do that. I agree about leaving things as you came. This drive is full of trash that's accumulated over the years and... more
                    • But it's LINUX! IT DOESN'T NEED PERIODIC REINSTALLS!!!!1oneo - Puckdropper, Wed Aug 10 2022 2:18am
                      Wow, 500 MB of Perl stuff just for one package manager. Sometimes I think they just don't ever look at how much they're accumulating. That would be interesting, if you had a spare drive to copy your install to. Just blow out the ~/.cache dir and see what happens. It'd be interesting to see what... more
                      • Back in college around 2005... - Erik_, Sun Aug 14 2022 12:35am
                        I had a friend who was a huuuuge Linux fanatic. I was using Slackware at the time and he convinced me to switch over to Debian. It was actually the "apt" package manager he showed me which sold me as with Slackware you had to build everything from source and manually manage your dependencies (aka a... more
                        • Windows has much the same problem with programs - Puckdropper, Sat Aug 20 2022 2:32am
                          writing stuff where they don't need to. It's gotten worse now that Program Files is considered "write once" and you're supposed to store things like high score tables or recently opened document lists (I'm making stuff up) in AppData, a hidden system folder. That's too hard, so they just write it to... more
                          • I think those started with Windows XP, right? It's been forever since I've used it. But yeah, same issue. Everything gets clogged up in \Users\$username\** instead of /home/$username/** That would be an interesting concept. You would need a pretty locked down OS for something like that to work. I... more
                            • I can't tell you why everyone seems to have a C:\Intel folde - Puckdropper, Thu Aug 25 2022 4:13am
                              Guess the world's biggest PC microprocessor company (or second biggest?) can't figure out how to make their stuff work on Windows? It gets a little annoying having so many programs that haven't figured out the Windows system, but then again why is this so hard? Windows XP started really enforcing it... more
                              • Dell used to do that too. - Erik_, Wed Sep 07 2022 11:52am
                                I'm not sure if they do anymore but their device drivers would be in something like C:\dell. I guess they figure they want to keep it somewhere easy to find and completely separate from the OS related directories. Its interesting going back to my 486 where I have to use "dir /w" or "dir | more" on C:\... more
                                • A good bit of it was C:\Program Files - Puckdropper, Thu Sep 08 2022 5:59am
                                  started to get locked down and Documents wasn't really the right place for things like device drivers. The users *would* delete them. [quote] Yep, exactly this. There would even probably be a StackOverflow question answered with "For what you're doing you should use fsave_manual. Using these parameters... more
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